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This is more than just imposing the charmed condition. That's a simple mechanic with consistent, workable results. You can't attack the charmer, and the charmer gets advantage on Charisma checks against you. Pretty straightforward.
I'm talking about Dominate Person. Geas. Command. Suggestion. Heck, even Charm Person can be a hassle when it's an NPC using it on a player. There are quite a few monsters in the MM that come with these troubling spells, and sooner or later a DM will use a Rakshasa, Lamia, Vampire, Orc Eye of Grummsh, Sphinx, or Yochlol in their game.
These spells mess with a basic tenant of Role-Playing games. One of the contracts you make in an RPG is "Player tells DM what they want to do, DM tells player how world reacts." Mind-controlling spells add limits to that first part of the contract. And even though there were already a lot of limits in place (such as sticking to fantasy tropes, etc), players seem to find total control too much to concede.
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Options for Controlling PCs
1. Tempting Offers
One of the simplest ways to allow this sort of mental coercion (and admittedly one of the weakest mechanically) is to make the player a powerful offer. They obey, or X happens.
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For this method, the devil could be inside the character's head, rooting through their memories. Perhaps they find the fighter's family, their guild master, or a location of significant importance. Something that would otherwise never hold the devil's interest. But the devil promises that this target will be under attack from devils unless the fighter obeys. Then, the player can take the threat of losing something important in their decision to obey the devil.
2. Meta Suggestions
Another simple way to perform mind control on a character is to simply give them suggestions as the DM. These suggestions would later be revealed to be the machinations of a spell.
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In this scenario, the DM would have told the party that there was a traitor in their midsts, and that the players couldn't know who it was because the traitor wouldn't act differently until the right moment. Alternatively, the DM could have told the whole group that the that traitor's player knew, but was told not to tell anyone. In reality, no player had been told.
In the fight, the devil would simply call out to one of the other members of the party as if they were an ally. This would, in a roundabout way, cause the fighter to attack that ally.
A final note about this method: This requires a DM manipulating the metagame, which can work for some groups but not for others. Make sure your players are the type of players not to flip tables when the deception has been revealed!
3. Exploitable loopholes
This is likely the most straightforward method, and probably the one that most DMs already use. Basically, you give the player a command that can be fudged to have minimal effect on the group, if the player is quick-witted enough.
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The key here is to keep the suggestion slightly vague. Allow the player to determine part of their action, but not the whole action. This makes the players who know what they are doing get to be clever and look cool in the face of danger.
4. Single body part defiance
In certain situations, it might make sense for only a portion of the player's body to be out of their control. The wording of a Command, Suggestion, or Geas spell might only affect a single arm, leg, or even digit on a character. This is similar to the exploitable loophole above, except that it effects the character rather then the wording of the command.
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In our example, the Devil would have commanded the fighter's sword arm to attack, without affecting the rest of the body. The Fighter, hoping to save their friends from pain, might have to make a srength check to force their sword arm to drop the sword.
5. Confusion-like effect
This method works best when you have a relatively small player in a combat casting the spell. For example, if the Devil in question is merely a mook in an Archdevil's army. In this case, it doesn't really matter what the devil wants the player to do. The Archdevil is the real threat here.
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I would make this a little more flavorful, however. In the example we're using, I would use something like this:
- 1: The devil tells the fighter to flee, it doesn't care where.
- 2-6: The devil orders the fighter to grovel and praise it
- 7-8: The devil orders the fighter not to come any closer, but to attack whatever is within reach
- 9-10: The devil tells the fighter to use a free action (PHB pg. 190), probably sheathe their active weapon
6. Disadvantage
This is lifted directly from Compelled Duel, and is one of the only ways of enforcing mental control in the Rules as Written.
Simply put, impose disadvantage on every action the character takes except the ones the spell suggests. This is a very fast and easy way to run these spells, but in some situations the detriment of rolling with disadvantage won't stop the player from continuing to do what they want.
This is fairly obvious from our example, where the fighter will basically have disadvantage on anything but attacking their allies. However, this probably won't stop the fighter from attacking the devil anyway.
Specific Spells and How to Use Them
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Best method: Exploitable Loopholes
The condition suppression isn't a big deal for this spell, but the forced indifference is. I would make this spell end an active combat, with the condition that the players can't start a combat again until they are attacked. This give the players a challenge: how do they get someone to attack them, before the enemies get a full minute to heal and regroup?
Charm Person (PHB pg. 221)
Best Method: Meta Suggestion / Exploitable Loophole
You can easily have a player make a Wisdom save at a party without telling them why, then have an "Old Friend" show up a half-hour later with advantage on all charisma checks. Alternatively, you can use the method above, where the players have to figure out how to get the NPC to harm them. Finally, this spell features a failsafe: after an hour, the player will know they were charmed, and then anything goes.
Command (PHB pg. 223)
Best Method: Exploitable Loophole
This spell provides a good amount of easy commands with defined mechanical effects. Of course, there are whole forums on better command words than listed in the PHB, and since they are only one word, they are ripe for exploitation. Orc Shaman tells you "Betray!"? You could always just reveal a secret you've been keeping about another character.
Compelled Duel (PHB pg. 224)
Best Method: Disadvantage
Works best as written.
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Best Method: Single Body Part Defiance
Works best as written. Since you aren't taking their action, just their move, and they get to save again at the end of their turn, this isn't that bad.
Crown of Madness (PHB pg. 229)
Best Method: Single Body Part Defiance
Works best as written. Since you aren't taking their move, just their action, and they get to save again at the end of their turn, this isn't that bad.
Detect Thoughts (PHB pg. 231)
Best Method: Tempting Offer / Meta Suggestion
This is a great spell for threatening something the character loves, especially on a failure. I would look at the character's Bond when looking for "something that looms large in [the character's] mind". Alternatively, the monster could be able to gain knowledge of any information the player talks about at the table. Then, as a DM, simply ask the player what they don't want to think about.
Dominate Person/Beast/Monster (PHB pg. 235)
Best method: Exploitable Loopholes / Single Body Part Defiance / Confusion-like effect
This spell has two levels: simple commands that can be turned into exploitable loopholes, and full control that is best done via a confusion-like effect or a single body part. This is a high-level spell, though, so it should have an appropriately difficult set of commands with few loopholes. It might be best to write out some commands and actions ahead of time if you know you will be using a monster that has this spell.
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Best Method: disadvantage / Meta Suggestion
Works best as written, but in certain situations (such as combat) it would make more sense to tell the player they think they have been transported to the Ethereal Plane with the caster. This could simulate the hazy, less-perceptible visions of anything else around them.
Feeblemind (PHB pg. 239)
Best Method: Confusion-like effect
This spell is really more of a plot device than something you should use in a random combat. However, if you do need to figure out what the character should do while they have a shattered intellect, the confusion table is a good way to represent that. I would include the caveat that the player won't attack friends at random if they roll a result of 7-8.
Friends (PHB pg. 244)
Best method: Meta Suggestion
This spell works best if you portray the caster as friendly and likeable, but tell every player except the charmed one that they get a bad feeling from the NPC. When the spell ends, of course, all bets are off.
Geas (PHB pg. 244)
Best Method: Meta Suggestion / Exploitable Loophole
A long-term spell like this is perfect for setting up a meta suggestion. The DM can call for a Wisdom save without asking why, then a minute later a shadowy figure approaches and makes a deal that sounds too good to be true. Of course, this has a built-in consequence of dealing psychic damage when disobeyed, but the once-per day limit can make this easily seem like a character is just developing horrible migraine headaches. Alternatively, this spell could have a command with an exploitable loophole, giving the player the option to take the damage each day in defiance.
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Best Method: Meta Suggestion
This is a tricky one. The difficulty with this spell is threefold: the player must make an Intelligence save, the spell only affects a single target, and the spell only lasts a minute. So the "bridge" in the example would be quickly disproved by the player's suspicions, the other players, and the time limit. In order to make this work, I'd first suggest rolling the player's Int save in secret. If they fail, then you can tell them they see something "out of the corner of your eye" or "that you didn't notice until just now". For best effect, make it something personal to the character: a small trinket, a ghost of a loved one, etc. Then, the player might not be surprised when the other players say they can't see it. Also, give it some sort of "escape method": the trinket slips out of their hand and is lost in the grass, or the ghost fades from view.
Suggestion/Mass Suggestion (PHB pg. 279)
Best Method: Exploitable Loophole/Single Body Part Defiance/Meta Suggestion
This spell works well as written, which I would use an exploitable loophole to employ, but it also contains a version where the player is affected for an entire 8 hours. The suggestion "walk west and don't stop" is completely reasonable. This is where I would employ a different method. Single Body Part Defiance is a good one: then they can still do other things while they walk for 8 hours. Meta Suggestion also works: the spell ends if the caster or their companions damage the character, which leads to a good problem to solve. This works well with Mass Suggestion.
Dryad/Succubus/Vampire's Charm Ability (MM pg. 121/285/297)
Best Method: Meta Suggestion / Exploitable Loophole / Tempting Offer
This one is a more potent form of Charm Person, so aside from using the Meta Suggestion or Exploitable Loophole Methods, I'd also use the Tempting Offer method. I'd possibly use these in conjunction with each other to impress the potency of the creature's charms.
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Best Method: Meta Suggestion / Single Body Part Defiance
This one heavily depends on if the Ghost is friendly or hostile. A friendly ghost will probably allow the player to continue acting, but the DM can emphasize certain plans of action to that player. A hostile ghost will be fighting against the target for control and will certainly try to control various body parts. Of course, the intellect devourer will nearly always be hostile.
Harpy's Song (MM pg. 181)
Best Method: Single Body Part Defiance
Works best as written. Since you aren't taking their action, just their move, and they get to save again at the end of their turn, this isn't that bad.
Nothic's Weird Insight (MM pg. 236)
Best Method: Meta Suggestion
Honestly, this is the easiest one on here. Most players would jump at the chance to reveal a secret or flesh out a backstory for their character. Just ask the player.
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